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Old 02-27-2012, 06:05 PM   #31
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i enjoyed that dodecahedron but it really just makes me want to listen to DsO....
You can tell they take influence from DsO style BM, but it's not even close to just "copy pasta". I don't understand that just wanting to listen to DsO instead.

Like that new band Ad Nauseam from Italy, THAT just makes me want to listen to Ulcerate, because that's what it sounds like to me, trying to emulate Ulcerate in every facet of their music.
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Old 02-27-2012, 06:31 PM   #32
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nah, i'm not saying it's cookie cutter-esqe at all. they definitely have their own sound. i think i'm more agreeing with goaters in that, it somehow lacks the aggressiveness that other bands like DsO (and only DsO) just nail.

i do really enjoy the creepier sounding passages. the spoken vocal effects are awesome. i need to listen again on headphones before i talk too much. i think i only went through it 3 times on repeat.
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Old 02-27-2012, 06:46 PM   #33
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i'm gonna throw out a little example...

listen to this song between 3:10-4:10 or so



they are not holding back. somehow i got the feeling that the entire dodecahedron album was just building and brewing but i never got that AAAARHHGHGGGGGHHHHHHH fucking release of an evil putrid load all over my face. no homo.
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Old 02-27-2012, 07:33 PM   #34
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Eh, checked Dodecahedron about 5 times and it has nice parts but eh.... Misses something to me.
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Old 02-28-2012, 02:32 PM   #35
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skagos have the first half of their new album streaming here

http://skagos.bandcamp.com/track/anarchic-side-a
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skagos have the first half of their new album streaming here

http://skagos.bandcamp.com/track/anarchic-side-a
That was great, thanks.
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Old 02-28-2012, 03:29 PM   #37
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Johnny, brother, are you telling me you don't like the Dodecahedron S/T?
No because i have only heard one or two songs. I'll just try to get into it sometime later.
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Old 02-28-2012, 03:37 PM   #38
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skagos have the first half of their new album streaming here

http://skagos.bandcamp.com/track/anarchic-side-a
Man, this pretty good. A bit different than I would've expected from them. Thanks for posting this!
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Old 02-28-2012, 10:24 PM   #39
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Old 02-29-2012, 01:29 AM   #40
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Like that new band Ad Nauseam from Italy, THAT just makes me want to listen to Ulcerate, because that's what it sounds like to me, trying to emulate Ulcerate in every facet of their music.
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Old 02-29-2012, 01:30 AM   #41
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even though it's not "real" black metal, Castevet's Mound of Ash album is incredible. It's Andrew from Biolich on guitar and the melodies are amazing.
Holy fuck, this is RIGHT up my alley. Thanks.
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Old 02-29-2012, 03:04 AM   #42
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From what i've listened, most of these "experimental" black metal albums seem to lack the whole destructive, rebellious violence and mystery of black metal in general.
You mean because the bands are like... mature?
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I understand what Marlon is saying, but I get more of a Gorguts (Obscura) vibe than Ulcerate but that is just me (not to say the Ulcerate influence isn't there).
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Old 02-29-2012, 06:09 PM   #44
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I understand what Marlon is saying, but I get more of a Gorguts (Obscura) vibe than Ulcerate but that is just me (not to say the Ulcerate influence isn't there).
Cheers for the link. Hmm, def a HUGE Ulcy vibe in there (and a lot of Gorguts). I think naming themselves after an Ulcerate track probably wouldn't help to distance them from the similarities.
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Old 02-29-2012, 07:08 PM   #45
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You mean because the bands are like... mature?
There's enough creative breathing room within the genre--not every band is on the verge of self parody like Carpathian Forest or Sarcofago. But there are margins, and all of these converge riff bands are really just dark and imposing in an incredibly abstract sense.

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Old 02-29-2012, 07:16 PM   #46
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I think naming themselves after an Ulcerate track probably wouldn't help to distance them from the similarities.
not to overstep my bounds here since i don't listen to ulcerate, but how can they have ownership over a term like "ad nauseam"?
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Old 02-29-2012, 07:24 PM   #47
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not to overstep my bounds here since i don't listen to ulcerate, but how can they have ownership over a term like "ad nauseam"?
Not saying they own the term, but there is a big Ulcerate influence there. You'd think they would want to make it a bit less apparent. It would be like forming a Suffoclone band and calling it Funeral Inception or something. Anyway, just my two cents.
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Not saying they own the term, but there is a big Ulcerate influence there. You'd think they would want to make it a bit less apparent. It would be like forming a Suffoclone band and calling it Funeral Inception or something. Anyway, just my two cents.
What vegan said. Also,how can Monsieur not listen to Ulcerate? My brain cannot compute.

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Top marks for the oddest metal video ever made.
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Old 02-29-2012, 10:26 PM   #50
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You mean because the bands are like... mature?
I'll probably get flamed for this.. but whatever, lol..

I don't see how black metal could logically stay 'relevant' without some form of maturity, period. I said in another thread somewhere that a lot of these straight up, misanthropic, satanic black metal bands don't have much of a shelf life anymore (and I still firmly believe this, lol) because quite honestly, there's only so far you can go with the whole corpse paint, fake blood, pigs heads/guts, and paying homage to satanic rituals, etc., etc. because over time it just loses its shock value. Just take a look at Black Witchery for example.. nuff fucking said! I kind of look at all that the same way that retro thrash bands try desperately to bring the year '84 back. That all said, I applaud bands like Altar of Plagues, Leviathan, and even Lifelover for merely existing.
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Fuck staying relevant. There will always be people that want straight up black metal, corpse paint, spikes et al and then there will be people who want the musical styling of black metal with a more progressive twinge. One is the original, one is a spin off. Black metal has stayed far more relevant than thrash in any case.

Also Black Witchery are deadly.
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Old 02-29-2012, 11:12 PM   #52
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Not saying they own the term, but there is a big Ulcerate influence there. You'd think they would want to make it a bit less apparent. It would be like forming a Suffoclone band and calling it Funeral Inception or something. Anyway, just my two cents.
'ad nauseum' is a common phrase, 'Funeral Inception' is two words. Just sayin'
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You mean because the bands are like... mature?
That seems a bit presumptuous to me. I don't think Johnny wants black metal bands to clone Panzer Division Marduk over and over again. Though the word "rebellious" is lost to perpetual adolescents in my book, I expect that when he refers to the "mystery" and "destructiveness" of black metal he means pretty well developed bands. Also, clearly bands can be developed but still aesthetically traditional, like Inquisition.

I played the dodecahedron album and liked it, but IIRC only the first two songs maintain a pace beyond mid, which makes me less interested. Like I said somewhere else, if you're going to play mid-paced metal your riffs have to be better on average to keep the experience interesting.

That's after one listen while browsing - I'm open to the album being great.

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Listened to half of it last night. Fairly deadly stuff and I'm not usually a fan of their recorded output, mind you it's been about five years since I checked anything out.
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The new Mgla album is shipping from Northern Heritage.
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