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Old 04-14-2010, 12:31 PM   #31
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i really wouldn't give a shit either i mean i'm an easygoing guy but when you read their ridiculous interviews where they talk shit on bands like immortal and emperor, state that they are the ultimate darkness and yes, talk about sacrificing animals: "Furthermore, if you get caught sacrificing an animal backstage at a U.S. venue, you will be in deep shit. The venue in Sweden knows what they are getting their selves into." you kind of wonder if you shouldn't be giving them shit for not living up to their wanky image.
Someone should ask them, then, why their music is so derivative of Dissection, Immortal, and early Emperor, and why they are the saviors of black metal if their music is so unoriginal.
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:56 PM   #32
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrOfvhFiq6E

^ New song online. I like!
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Old 04-28-2010, 12:41 AM   #33
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I have a friend who toured with these guys in Europe and watched them shoot Pigeons in a courtyard with a pellet gun and then collect the semi-dead flopping around birds.

Just saying.
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Old 04-28-2010, 12:42 AM   #34
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That's not a "new" song - I mean it's not on the upcoming album.

It's the single track EP they just released called "Reaping Death".
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Old 04-28-2010, 02:02 AM   #35
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That's not a "new" song - I mean it's not on the upcoming album.

It's the single track EP they just released called "Reaping Death".
Well...

1. Death's Cold Dark 05:29
2. Malfeitor 06:58
3. Reaping Death 05:07 <------
4. Four Thrones 06:16
5. Wolves Curse 09:12
6. Lawless Darkness 06:08
7. Total Funeral 06:04
8. Hymn to Qayin 05:57
9. Kiss of Death 07:46
10. Waters of Ain 14:31
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Old 04-29-2010, 06:12 AM   #36
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New song is atrociously meh.


Just like Sworn to the Dark I think.
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Old 04-29-2010, 11:51 AM   #37
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That's not a "new" song - I mean it's not on the upcoming album.

It's the single track EP they just released called "Reaping Death".
The single is two tracks. They cover "The Return Of Darkness and Evil" on it as well.
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Old 04-29-2010, 02:25 PM   #38
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The single is two tracks. They cover "The Return Of Darkness and Evil" on it as well.
on the CD version. on the LP version it's replaced by a Death SS cover
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Old 04-29-2010, 03:17 PM   #39
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With your logic, every animal would be hunted to extinction. Every whale hunter or pothcer would say the same thing. I'm not a vegan or animals rights guy but animals should have some rights... We are not talking about the whale or seal hunt here. That would take detailed planning. Simple rules like not accepting "Hey, why don't the 3 of us corner that cat over there and beat it to death, i don't want to pay for stage blood tonight" as proper behavior
I think it's kinda weird that a lot of people have a problem when cats, dogs etc. (non-human animals which we exploit for entertainment) are killed but hardly anyone seems to have a problem with cows, pigs or fish being exploited, tortured and murdered.

A cat being killed for a stage show is just as bad as a cow being killed for you.


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Being a vegetarian doesn't mean that non-human animals aren't killed for you...not all. ;)


Sorry, not trying to start a animal rights debate, since that's pretty pointless anyway, but I just had to comment. :)
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Old 04-29-2010, 06:52 PM   #40
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not a veggie either but they are valid points.either your disgusted by it all or none at all.

the aesthetic of this band has always been better than their musical output.saw them live over here before and wandered off after a few songs.thought it was boring as all fuck.
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Old 04-29-2010, 07:58 PM   #41
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A cat being killed for a stage show is just as bad as a cow being killed for you.

theres a difference between killing something so you can eat and susatain off of it and killing something so you can parade around with it on a stage and look super duper evil in front of a bunch of fags but ok.
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Old 04-29-2010, 08:24 PM   #42
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Well...

1. Death's Cold Dark 05:29
2. Malfeitor 06:58
3. Reaping Death 05:07 <------
4. Four Thrones 06:16
5. Wolves Curse 09:12
6. Lawless Darkness 06:08
7. Total Funeral 06:04
8. Hymn to Qayin 05:57
9. Kiss of Death 07:46
10. Waters of Ain 14:31
I'm sorry - my mistake.

It still isn't "new" in the sense that I was thinking, though. I'm itching for a song other that one.
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Old 04-29-2010, 08:42 PM   #43
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I think it's kinda weird that a lot of people have a problem when cats, dogs etc. (non-human animals which we exploit for entertainment) are killed but hardly anyone seems to have a problem with cows, pigs or fish being exploited, tortured and murdered.

A cat being killed for a stage show is just as bad as a cow being killed for you.


@LesserAnimal:

Being a vegetarian doesn't mean that non-human animals aren't killed for you...not all. ;)


Sorry, not trying to start a animal rights debate, since that's pretty pointless anyway, but I just had to comment. :)
I understand the contradiction for sure. I think about being vegetarian from time to time but, I will admit that I am addicted to and sometimes crave a nice big piece of meat (fuck off with the gay jokes)! Humans have teeth evolved for eating meat. Now we could go without killing animals and still survive since hunting is not necessary as it used to be. I do make a point to not end up at fast food chains, or buy from bulk grocery stores or things like M&M Meats... These places hold animals in warehouses like they are a fucking Twinky or something... I really try to avoid that shit at all cost

...But, killing pets and small animals for no real survival purpose is much different IMO
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Old 04-29-2010, 09:11 PM   #44
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Definitely looking forward to this. Sworn to the Dark was a quality album.
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Old 04-29-2010, 10:15 PM   #45
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I agree with everyone who said that Sworn was garbage, and Reaping Death doesn't sound any better. Casus was the shit, though. At least the new cover is sick.
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Old 04-29-2010, 10:30 PM   #46
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not a veggie either but they are valid points.either your disgusted by it all or none at all.

the aesthetic of this band has always been better than their musical output.saw them live over here before and wandered off after a few songs.thought it was boring as all fuck.
They're aesthetic is even more derivative than their music. Their main appeal, whether they mean it or not, is that they put on a classic style black metal show for people who were unable to see the fabled glory days of Mayhem, Emperor, Dissection, et al. Not begrudging them for that - that's why I'd want to see them, but they're a bunch of arrogant fucks who I hope are just keeping an image and not actually unaware that they are the black metal equivalent of a kecak ritual.
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Old 05-24-2010, 06:17 PM   #47
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Old 05-24-2010, 06:22 PM   #48
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:14 PM   #49
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Thanks for the heads up!
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:49 PM   #50
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I think it's kinda weird that a lot of people have a problem when cats, dogs etc. (non-human animals which we exploit for entertainment) are killed but hardly anyone seems to have a problem with cows, pigs or fish being exploited, tortured and murdered.

A cat being killed for a stage show is just as bad as a cow being killed for you.


@LesserAnimal:

Being a vegetarian doesn't mean that non-human animals aren't killed for you...not all. ;)


Sorry, not trying to start a animal rights debate, since that's pretty pointless anyway, but I just had to comment. :)
The problem is that animals die for vegetarians as well, there isn't a form of conventional diet that does not contribute to the death of animals.

There's a clear distinction between killing an animal, which is bred purely for consumption, and an animal being killed for entertainment.
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Old 05-24-2010, 10:17 PM   #51
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How does vegetarianism contribute?

I'm curious.
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Old 05-24-2010, 10:38 PM   #52
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How does vegetarianism contribute?

I'm curious.

Have you ever seen the machinery utilized to harvest wheat/grain/vegetables, etc.? Wild animals in the fields are killed in large numbers during harvesting; field mice, rabbits, snakes, etc. are sucked under, killed then left to rot in the fields.



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Here's a study: clicky
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Old 05-24-2010, 11:16 PM   #53
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Oh shit.
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Old 05-25-2010, 12:30 AM   #54
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How does vegetarianism contribute?

I'm curious.
And not forgetting PETA's mass animal executions.
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Old 05-25-2010, 01:13 AM   #56
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And not forgetting PETA's mass animal executions.
PETA has nada to do with vegetarianism.
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There is no direct link admittedly but your statement is untrue.
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Old 05-25-2010, 06:01 PM   #58
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Hmph. At first I thought this was pretty generic, but it's growing on me.
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Old 05-25-2010, 06:17 PM   #59
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meh. i gave it a chance all the way through and while i think it's quite a bit better than Sworn to the Snooze it still does absolutely nothing for me (and it's waaaay too long)
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Old 05-25-2010, 06:40 PM   #60
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Watain rules. Picking this up at MDF this weekend I think.

Killing animals for any reason other than self-defense or food is unacceptable, but I'm not going to stop supporting them because of it.

And vegetarians that have any reasons for it other than nutritional are just self righteous dicks. You aren't better than anyone else because of the food you eat, we're all made of the same decaying organic matter.
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