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Old 04-04-2008, 10:58 PM   #1
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How do you decide when to increase metronome speed?

Hi, I'm new here...

I'm not looking for a definitive answer of course...just wondering where you guys set the bar for increasing metronome speed.

Usually after I practice an exercise for a while and do not feel rushed at all, I try to play it for four minutes straight before I move the metronome up. Of course its not going to be 100% super-clean the whole time, but could it be? I'm usually happy if there are no major flaws and maybe a few minor flaws. Really tiny problems I try to fix but ultimately don't care about as much.

I just feel like if I could find absolutely no flaws (from a player's standpoint, not a listener's), it'd probably be luck.
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Old 04-04-2008, 11:07 PM   #2
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If it's something really hard that I can't play after a few minutes of practice, I take out the metronome, slow it way down, get it down comfortably at that speed, then move the tempo up little by little.

I should add though, I don't really run through exercises anymore, I do this when I'm learning a difficult song.
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Old 04-07-2008, 07:20 PM   #3
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I figured out i progress quicker if i just make some drums in cubase and play with those instead of a metronome.
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Old 04-08-2008, 11:58 AM   #4
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When you are comfortable with the current speed.
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Old 04-08-2008, 12:50 PM   #5
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yea when youre comfortable.

Play it at a slow speed for a while. Then when that speed is real easy and youre doing it nearly effortlessly, put the metronome up a bit.
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Old 04-08-2008, 01:44 PM   #6
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When you are comfortable with the current speed.

Should be pretty obvious. If you're struggling at the current speed, why would you increase it?
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Old 04-08-2008, 02:52 PM   #7
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When I have a guitar lessons, my teacher and I would run through a lead of a song a couple times without it, then take out the nome and put it around 80bpm and increase it by about 5 every couple of minutes til I start to struggle
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Old 04-08-2008, 04:45 PM   #8
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when it's as clean as you want it and you're totally relaxed while playing it, bump it up a little.
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Old 04-11-2008, 01:23 AM   #9
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practice until the movements become natural to your hands. the most important thing is striving towards making every part of your playing effortless, no matter how fast or how slow.
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Old 12-24-2008, 05:46 PM   #10
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You know its time to move up the speed when you can turn off the metronome in the middle of practicing and hold that tempo.
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Old 01-21-2009, 11:36 PM   #11
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You can also set it at a tempo that would be always be increasing, and don't look till you're feeling uncomfortable. That way you'll have a kind of a reference point that can be treated as a goal ...
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:44 AM   #12
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For myself I've noticed that it's better not to just use a slow increase in tempo over practicing time, but to set it in intervalls: Play at comfortable speed until it really flows, then go up in 1 bpm steps at every repetition until you reach the point where you hardly can hit the notes (so it's a little sloppy). Then turn it back massively, at realy slow tempo (try hole quartes, eights, and triplets on 40 bpm, it's much harder than you'd imagine to play at so low tempo) and go up again.
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Old 01-26-2009, 08:42 PM   #13
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For myself I've noticed that it's better not to just use a slow increase in tempo over practicing time, but to set it in intervalls: Play at comfortable speed until it really flows, then go up in 1 bpm steps at every repetition until you reach the point where you hardly can hit the notes (so it's a little sloppy). Then turn it back massively, at realy slow tempo (try hole quartes, eights, and triplets on 40 bpm, it's much harder than you'd imagine to play at so low tempo) and go up again.
Yeah, that's kill. Also, practising on a loud clean channel for hearing your ''mistakes'' is not bad ...
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Old 02-01-2009, 12:37 PM   #14
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I just start with a comfortable tempo and don't change it all day, just repeat like a motherfucker while watching soccer matches or shit like that, then the next day I put the tempo up a tiny bit, between 2 or 5 bpm so I will barely notice the difference and get it quickly. Repeat. Next day 2/5 bpm more, if you practice every day in a month you have that excercise nailed easily. That's my way to do it
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:10 AM   #15
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Turn the metronome off, turn the distortion right up on your amp, play it as fast as you can, then play it twice that fast, and bluff the bits that are too hard.
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Old 02-21-2009, 10:06 PM   #16
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I find my maximum comfortable speed for a given lick, then take back the bpm by 4 or 5 and practise the lick every day for a week at that tempo, concentrating on getting it as smooth and consistent as possible. I don't try and push any faster at any point during the week. After the week has passed, I find that my maximum speed has increased noticeably.

It is nearly impossible to eliminate errors completely, but regular practise at slower-than-flat-out tempos will improve consistency a massive amount.

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