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Old 04-23-2007, 04:19 PM   #61
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Mike Smith of Suffocation was big on hip-hop and even had his own band after he left Suffocation in 94...

So yea, I could be some connection between Death metal and hip hop.
So if Mike Smith eats hot dogs is there a connection between death metal and hot dogs?
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Old 04-23-2007, 04:36 PM   #62
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John Gallagher likes some hip-hop and that's not stopped you all salivating over 'War Of Attrition' has it?
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Old 04-23-2007, 05:57 PM   #63
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To the person who doesn't like hip hop and rap its all the same, but people like me and you who appreciate it, can definite hear a big difference...
Explain the difference then, because I really don't think there is one. I could be wrong, but I've asked people that listen to rap and none of them can give me a real answer.
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Old 04-23-2007, 06:22 PM   #64
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talib, hi tek, premier, guru, dj plus one, scratch perverts, peanut butter wolf, jehst(uk) = all ull ever need for a pleasent, non bitch this, rims that hip hop experiance.
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Old 04-23-2007, 06:31 PM   #65
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Explain the difference then, because I really don't think there is one. I could be wrong, but I've asked people that listen to rap and none of them can give me a real answer.
Lyrical composition, style, and content...the beats are much different between the 2 genres...

It's kinda like comparing death metal and tech death...similar yet very different...
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Old 04-23-2007, 07:26 PM   #66
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Explain the difference then, because I really don't think there is one. I could be wrong, but I've asked people that listen to rap and none of them can give me a real answer.
IMO rap is aimed squarely at showcasing the talents of the vocalist and his rhythmic abilities etc, whereas hip-hop always seemed to me to be more about more of the whole package, ie rap-style vocals but with more attention spent on the music behind them, samples/loops/ interpolations etc.

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It's kinda like comparing death metal and tech death...similar yet very different...
what he said.
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Old 04-23-2007, 07:32 PM   #67
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IMO rap is aimed squarely at showcasing the talents of the vocalist and his rhythmic abilities etc
Not really, considering that most of it is completely talentless and they're not saying anything.

Again, there's no real difference. It's just which term people prefer to use. If you want to seperate them, rap is mainstream garbage, hip hop is a culture.
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Old 04-23-2007, 08:48 PM   #68
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Again, there's no real difference. It's just which term people prefer to use. If you want to seperate them, rap is mainstream garbage, hip hop is a culture.
This makes sense. Sometimes one of my friends will show me some rap/hip hop song that I think is really cool, but for the most part I only listen to it to laugh at the lyrics.
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Old 04-23-2007, 09:23 PM   #69
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Like any genre, there's some talented thought provoking stuff and there's some shallow/empty watered down mainstream garbage.
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Old 04-23-2007, 10:17 PM   #70
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Like any genre, there's some talented thought provoking stuff and there's some shallow/empty watered down mainstream garbage.
There is definitely good RAP that is far from mainstream...
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Old 04-24-2007, 01:42 AM   #71
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How has no one mentioned canibus ? He`s my favorite. But I like busta rhymes, wu tang/sideprojects, Immortal Technique, Blackstar/mos/kweli, some common, older gangsta rap, dilated peoples, MF Doom, some 2pac, blackalicious, and krs-one.
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Old 04-24-2007, 01:43 AM   #72
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Old 04-24-2007, 01:44 AM   #73
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I also like older ICP.

*Expecting to get bottled in the head now*
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Old 04-24-2007, 01:53 AM   #74
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Icp is not cool. I went to a hippy fest this summer (for the lsd and 4 days in the woods) and while I was tripping I just kept yelling at them and calling them I see people. But theyre from around my area which is a disgrace.
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Old 04-24-2007, 02:20 AM   #75
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some 2pac
Worst rapper I've ever heard.
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Old 04-24-2007, 09:31 AM   #76
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How has no one mentioned canibus ?
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Canibus - Rip the Jacker
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Old 04-24-2007, 09:46 AM   #77
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I only listen to german splatter/ horror or porn hip hop. berlin crime, some bunker stuff,Hirntot records, nord nord and so on. All kinds of violent or pervert german hip hop !

http://www.hirntot-records.de/

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Old 04-24-2007, 09:50 AM   #78
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Old 04-24-2007, 05:17 PM   #79
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Old 04-24-2007, 05:53 PM   #80
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Worst rapper I've ever heard.

failure. tupac was awesome.
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Old 04-24-2007, 06:50 PM   #82
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failure. tupac was awesome.
He was good at rapping and spinning rhymes, but he turned into a glammy fag near the end.
His old shit is tough.
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Old 04-24-2007, 06:51 PM   #83
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I only listen to german splatter/ horror or porn hip hop. berlin crime, some bunker stuff,Hirntot records, nord nord and so on. All kinds of violent or pervert german hip hop !

http://www.hirntot-records.de/
I'll have to check some of this out.
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Old 04-24-2007, 08:47 PM   #84
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I looooove Sage Francis
I probably listen to Sage/Non Prophets more then anything
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Old 04-24-2007, 11:33 PM   #85
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Worst rapper I've ever heard.
you are fucking clueless man, seriously

you dont know what the fuck youre talking about
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Old 04-24-2007, 11:41 PM   #86
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Pac was incredible and probably one of the only good things to come out of the west coast. His only downside was the beats could've been better and, since the dude recorded sooo much material, naturally he had his share of sub par stuff.
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The amount of material he recorded is insane. How many albums came out after he was killed? Amazing.

Canibus Rip The Jacker is awesome. I love the beats. The JMT dude did em right?

Also, Wakeness, ICP man? COME ON!!! How?!?! They're one of the few groups that makes me want to be physically violent.
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Old 04-24-2007, 11:59 PM   #88
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Yeah, Stoupe produced it. Canibus is insanely talented, but he always gets the shittiest beats imaginable. That album is great though. Stoupe is the man.
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Indeed he is.
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Old 04-25-2007, 12:15 AM   #90
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Pac was incredible and probably one of the only good things to come out of the west coast. His only downside was the beats could've been better and, since the dude recorded sooo much material, naturally he had his share of sub par stuff.
Yeah dude I agree there is some boring shit in his catalogue, but some of his stuff is literally astonishing. His delivery is unmatched, soooooo dynamic, unlike anyone else.

The first Makaveli disc (came out right around the time of his death) is probably the best overall record he ever did. The production is flawless, the flow is fucking ferocious at times, and introspective and wise at others. Me Against the World is another all time classic record though.
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